Instant Coffee Etch - for your Gun's "DAMASCUS" Looks.

Please - Don't drink this stuff - try black tea or green tea or even pure water first .. or make real coffee in a plunger pot from freshly ground beans. - Nothing advertized as instant can be good. - Never consume that crap that tastes like processed sewage. - If you want to appreciate exactly how processed sewage tastes - try drinking tap-water in Sydney Australia - even their homeless prefer beer.

From time-to-time you may find an old knife or gun barrel made from pattern welded steel that is generally called "DAMASCUS" steel - which it is not. There are a lot of expensive knives being made currently with pattern-welded steel blades. - REAL Damascus steel was high carbon WOOTZ steel having natural manganese, nickel, and tungsten -  SOLD in the Near East City of DAMASCUS from ores or billettes of metal from India and Sri Lanka. These strong blades had a water textured appearance ..

Old Real Damascus or Wootz Steel.

The antique Pattern Welded iron and steel barrels are an Art Form that grew out of gunmakers and iron workers attempts to strengthen gun barrels to better resist the explosive force of Gunpowder by folding and laminating different iron alloys.

Look at THAT

Never for one minute think that those folk in Olden Times were dumb .. I've got two nice wee 175 y.o. antique pistols with pattern welded "damascus" barrels that are faded by time. - Now "experts" would tell me to leave them alone but of-course I'm going to try improve their looks. - I don't want to renew the finish .. but rather to enhance the contrast & beauty of the patterning while keeping it's aged look.

Observant Shooters will note the barrels of the 'Double' are REGULATED TO CONVERGE.

Going by this image - both guns look OKish but I'll have a go at the single barrelled piece first because as received it does have some rust in the bore to be cured anyway.

The word is that cheap, hot, strong INSTANT COFFEE (perhaps with a little added lemon juice?) will refresh "damascus steel" from a grey textured surface and return it's interesting patterning contrast. Phosphoric and other organic acids in the instant brew cause the darkening while careful bright polishing of the highlights is needed. - I am not trying to deepen the metal's etch - I want to restore and beautify the contrast between the shining highlights and the blackened lowpoints.

God that soluble-stuff is crap .. I dumped half a pouch of $6.30 freeze-dri instant - dissolved in boiled water into a glass 'handle' and left the kitchen, to clear my nose of the stench of it. - It stinks like dog shit from a sugar fed pekingese. - I hope it doesn't etch the glass.

- This is after 45 minutes in the freeze-dri-etchant and flushing clean with boiling water ..

My guess is that the result is not worth the effort or the $6.30.

  Maybe a few hours immersion might work better But I'm not bothered - Don't take my word for it? - try these links:

https://rtknives.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Refresh-Damascus-Blade.pdf

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damascus_steel

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Buying B.P. & Use of Blackpowder SUBSTITUTES:

 I have been around the SUN 811/2 times and when I terminally drop-off this sphere, to head 26,670 light years into Sagittarius A.Hole ..

- our galaxy's supermassive black hole - I don't expect that anything much I've learned about ballistics will be very useful. - but .. Triple Se7en is another carbon based life form ..

 HOGDON introduced their "Triple Seven" loose powder in 2002. Triple Seven is apparently a gluconic acid (sugar-based) propellant that is far more efficient than Blackpowder or Pyrodex, with corresponding increases in muzzle velocity and internal pressure.

- If used in a sensible manner, to fire lead downrange out of a modern made muzzleloading percussion gun, all will be well and diddly-poo. - Sensible means to be aware at all times that triple se7en is a more efficient propellant than real 'Blackpowder' - requiring the loads to be REDUCED by around 15-20%.

 

All will be well if you operate at internal pressures the gun is capable of handling AND - you refrain from injecting yourself with the stuff - as Zinc gluconate injections are used to NEUTER male dogs.

- Not an outcome many of us on range wish to observe.

zinc gluconate is used for the non-surgical castration of male animals, primarily dogs and cats, by injecting it into the testes to cause permanent sterility and testicular atrophy. Administered as Neutersol® or Zeuterin, this chemical castration method is a licensed alternative to surgical neutering, working by destroying the seminiferous tubules and halting sperm production. While generally safe and effective, it carries some risks of scrotal ulcers at the injection site in a small percentage of dogs.

MmHm - scrotal ulcers (with onion gravy) ..

The exact 777 recipe is no doubt hidden away, but carbon-based fuels need, err, carbon to burn. If not using charcoal, there are few more economical options than sugar. The problem has always been the caramelization process, where several previous attempts had failed to achieve consistency, but Hodgdon finally did it satisfactorally. 

When you caramalize sugars by heating them .. you get what appears to be BURNT TOFFEE coating the inside of your firearm. Not Good for ease of cleaning eh.

When contemplating shooting original OLD antique guns - you should make bloody sure that the important bits are not weakened by rust pitting, wear & tear, damage, and sheer old age. - And you should contain your enthusiasm by reducing the amount of propellant you load, to moderate charges.

AND if using 'triple se7en' substitute - a wise person would reduce the load further by 15-20 percent.

REAL Black Powder is close to hens teeth nowadays and bloody expensive as REGULATION has been applied to the carriage, storage and sale, by our wise and friendly authorities - Mostly I find it is OUT OF STOCK.

This stuff is made in WAIKATO New Zealand by www.pyroworks.co.nz

email:  martin@pyroworks.co.nz 

It's getting close to impossible to find your HOLYSMOKE Gunpowder with all the regulations being applied - Can licenced shooters BUY DIRECT from your works by arrangement as private citizens, with limited amounts for self carriage?

If so, - we should put the word out  ..  ..

Hi Martin,

 

Thank you for your enquiry and we are happy to supply direct. We have a wide range of Black Powder and other items available, see below list.

 

This is pick-up only as no freight companies will transport this. You are allowed 15kg on your Firearms Licence.

 

Holy Smoke - Sporting in Cannon, Fg, FFg, FFFg and FFFFg at $160 per kg.

Holy Smoke - Cartridge in 1.5Fg, 2Fg, 3Fg at $180 per kg.

Swiss in 1.5Fg, FFFg at $110 per lb.

Schuetzen in FFg, FFFg at $80 per lb

Percussion Caps CCI No.11 at $35 per tin of 100.

Percussion Caps CCI Magnum No.11 at $38 per tin of 100.

Percussion Caps Top Hat at $50 per tin of 100. (4 Wing Musket)

Cannon Fuse – green, 2mm, 10 meter roll at $60

Davide Pedersoli - accruements, funnels, top hat cappers, powder measures, etc

Parker Hale - jags, mops and brushes, 410/45cal, 12 gauge

Tin Alloy – 35% Tin 65% Lead Alloy ~2kg bars $90.

 

Open all hours with some notice. Live, work, play all at the same location.

Kind regards,

Martin

 Dr Martin Van Tiel, PhD Chem, BSc Chem & Physics, NZIC          

Van Tiel Pyrotechnics Ltd
37 Moss Road, R.D.2, Taupiri 3792, New Zealand
Ph/Fax +64 7 8246564
Mob +64 274 515575

www.pyroworks.co.nz

I suggest that ALL LICENCED FIREARMS OWNERS passing through WAIKATO call into these premises and pick-up some black powder for their mates or to help re-stock their nearest friendly FIREARMS DEALER

When under attack .. We need to HELP EACH OTHER .. NETWORK

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What a LOAD of BALLS:

Reported Raids & Recoveries ..

Angela Brazier of THE FIREARMS SAFETY AUTHORITY was recently quoted in The Bay Of PlentyTimes 29 August 2025 stating .. “It is particularly concerning that a firearms dealer is part of this investigation,” Brazier said.“Firearms dealers are subject to higher thresholds of conduct to be considered a fit and proper person to hold a dealer’s licence.

Link: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/bay-of-plenty-times/news/police-seize-firearms-in-east-coast-black-market-investigation/HP6HIRZRIZC3NHRKV35AFCOTEA/?fbclid=IwY2xjawMd3dZleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBicmlkETFIek5QN0VpN2RETmxpNUtiAR7MFveLz-Mi5-dibFonbev4SiKN2ZjehrJJAmIpY2zUdEYFnSN3qC9lFE4Fqg_aem_mENU7UGT2pDxGNnP5wZO4w

May I, as an ex firearms dealer and longterm licence holder, point-out that POLICE - as the responsible authority and enforcement agency - should also be subject to higher thresholds of conduct .. and NOT be EXEMPTED FROM ALL REQUIREMENTS TO OBTAIN AND MAINTAIN NEW ZEALAND FIREARMS LICENCES as "fit & proper persons".

Either you ARE 'FIT & PROPER' or you are NOT .. Nobody should be exempt from these requirements.

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Regarding making 'caseless charged cartridges' or "HAZARD Bullets" for percussion firearms ..

https://flicense.blogspot.com/2024/09/hazard-caseless-boolits-4-blackpowder.html

These loads involve mixing the fff  black powder with the added adhesive of around 6 or 7 percent DEXTRINE or DEXTRIN - as the glue to hold the charge together when shaped & compressed. - The question has been asked "WHICH IS IT?" and my research indicates that this modified glucose-starch is a variable product with a variable spelling so don't worry about it. - Then there is the thought that this small amount of adhesive may reduce the propellant's power - which it might or might not .. those requiring the highest possible energy and velocity might compensate by INCREASING the charge volume/mass by a small percentage to compensate.

In the Olden Days - the gum on envelopes and postage stamps was dextrin.

My guess would be that any dextrin-adulteration power loss might well be fully compensated by the use of the nitrocellulose GLUE used to stick the charge to the BALL and to laquer seal the outer surface. - Use the right glue.

Here is a link to a gentleman making hand mixed 'Corned Powder' for fireworks .. He uses dextrin as an additive to produce larger granules:

https://www.skylighter.com/blogs/how-to-make-fireworks/hand-mixed-black-powder

- Such simple hand blended powders will be GUNPOWDER - better than crude dry-mix 'Serpentine Powder' but less powerful than proper optimum propellant from a Ball Mill.

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Two of us were questioning what exactly was the difference between #10 and #11 Percussion Caps .. we couldn't agree - So I thought "My computor AI will know .."

"#11 Percussion Caps are slightly larger than #10s, with #11s being longer and having a slightly greater internal diameter, although the size difference varies significantly between brands. #10 caps are typically used for revolvers, offering a tighter fit on the nipples, while #11 caps are generally used for muzzleloading rifles. However, it is best to test both sizes on your specific firearm, as a #10 will be loose on a #11 nipple and a #11 can be too large for a #10 nipple." 

- So #11 is larger and longer .. maybe.

I'll go back to my ignorant uninformed earlier self - and use whichever I can get andadjust the nipples to fit.

It's all down to your nipples mate. 

ALL the percussion guns I've ever owned were "Pre-Loved" and the nipples had been hammered & mushroomed out of shape. As a guess I'd say that the longer cap might be more securely held on a nipple than a shorter one - BUT naturally not if it is a looser fit. These 'cones' are tapered.

If your caps keep dropping off - you can give them a squeeze to distort them and grip a bit tighter, - or you 

might consider a wee dab of Nail-Polish to seal them gently in place - or I've read that the flexible clear 

plastic petrol pipe sold in various sizes may be cut into short stubs and pushed over the capped nipples as

 retention sleeves

 

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An Ounce of Innovation - at Last:

 THIS PISTOL WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE IN NEW ZEALAND.

- NO WAY.

The Third Bay Ounce is a 10+1 folding .22 s/a carry pistol that works.

-it actually weighs seven ounces + in USA - that's around 200 grams or 0.2 kg. empty in most of the world

This will be a completely pointless review as I've never seen a real one .. never fired one .. and will never own one unless I emigrate to America and manage to scrape together the US$900 that it costs now that it is available. They announced and showed The Ounce back in 2023 so I guess "it has been under development" for some time.

• The barrel is machined from a military spec'ed alloy steel developed specifically to meet the special needs of barrels.   It is further nitrided to add surface hardness and lubricity leading to longer life and improved performance.

• The frame and case parts are machined from aircraft grade aluminum alloy. The grips are polymer.

US$900 would buy two Glock clones or maybe three so you'd better hope this wee 'Palm Pistol' is made of decent materials .. hardened steels and virgin polymers, and maybe it will last a lifetime or two. The barrel is stated to measure 95mm or 3 3/4 inches long so it should have decent velocity and power - BUT do I need to re-state that it will be "restricted" or BANNED here in NZ due to not having their specified minimum barrel length of four inches. Local LE Authorities would likely also prohibit it for not looking like a firearm - whatever that means or has to do with anything.  

Here is a link to a decent video on this wee auto ..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UO_CNf2DpI4

and this link below leads to the maker's Web site:

https://www.ounceoz.com/

The Ounce would seem to be an ideal solution for protection of our partners and children in the absence of any law enforcement - perhaps the drug smuggling Criminal Gangs might be persuaded to import a few containers of them to sell to ordinary folk for defence from the Gangs' own criminal violence?

While writing this crap .. THE LIGHTS WENT OUT. The electric power supply was cut and all the hard working little pixies in my wires ran off for around an hour. - I went to bed.

Imagine if that outage had lasted for a week rather than an hour .. or how about a couple of MONTHS when the Southern Alpine Fault lets go - or if the Super Volcano under Lake Taupo decides to blow-up again, destroying our society and 'law & order' for decades ..

Would you find comfort in being able to defend yourselves?

Our Nation's 'leaders' enjoy 24 hour armed police guard - while our unlicensed NZ Police Service have a couple of thousand Glocks and around 2,500 Bushmaster MSSA rifles for their own protection - all paid for by taxes that we pay to them while ourselves being forbidden the same basic right to self defence.

They've also got Sub-Machine Guns and Grenade Launchers in their police armouries - for reasons best known to their administration - while they are planning further Police Station closures and staff reductions in my locality as part of an integral plan for fighting crime.

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Never mind eh - mustn't grumble ..

Revolvers Turn Stuff Around:

A few weeks back I was scribbling about revolvers having that essential part that REVOLVES (turns) and, - that without that cylinder, these tools are not a revolver ..

Well - the horrible mass killings by governments continue to dismay me .. Ukraine, Israel/Gaza, and the third awful slaughterhouse in central Africa that is barely reported - in the Central African Republic (CAR) involving the successive governments, rebels from the former Séléka coalition, the Anti-balaka militias, and various foreign and international forces. - When our so called "Democratic Western Leaders" throughout Europe and the UK and America actually support the continuation of these massacres .. even to the extent of changing national laws to try stop citizens opposing the unjust slaughter of innocents - the word REVOLVE again returns to my mind.

When we are controlled by criminal LIARS - holding a peaceful placard is called TERRORISM - while blasting hospitals is "peacekeeping"

To revolve means to turn around .. and we the people need to turn around the way our elected representatives are corruptly & venaly ignoring our wishes while promoting warfare for profit for some - that has the secondary effect of impoverishing subject peoples economies, Health Services, and Social Programs.

Some expert economist / political commentators are starting to mutter into their whisky glass about rebellion, revolution and Civil War fomenting in England, France, Germany, whatever .. Countries that lost their colonies, they've now lost their cheap energy fuels, they've lost their culture - buried under mudslides of refugees escaped from armies that stole their natural assets and homes.

The working class can kiss my arse .. sure - BUT they've got eyes and ears down on the assembly lines, warehouses and welding shops .. they are NOT stupid, - just trusting.

U S construction workers are asking "WHEN CAN WE START SHOOTING?"

Have YOU worked out WHY our governments need to disarm the general population? 

The military & police servants of the state are not stupid either and they see the level of luxury, privilege, caste and wealth that they are helping to protect and enable.

Even they know the difference between affluence and squalor, - repression and theft.

Revolvers work by turning things around.

- Don't listen to an old man - Try some panel analysis: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvJ6WfXxNFc

The ordinary British people are being pushed into the crap-filled waters of a swamp .. and never forget that little old New Zealand is British and has a British monarch. Where are our SAS?

You think that The Southern Alpine Fault letting-go will be dramatic - wait till nuclear nations Iran and Israel start at each other again ..

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BORE - CALIBRE - GAUGE ..

'BB' used to be my school boy fantasy ..

Brigette Bardot - Better Looking than Elon Musk:

The population of America is around 350 Million while Elon Musk is said to be worth $420 BILLION - that means he could give every man, woman, child, and baby $1,000 each to ease their hardships AND still walk away with $70 Billion to continue using his genius to enrich the world further ..

Yeah well you can take it from me that I might be an 'Old Bore' .. which is something like a "Fud" - but this piece started when I saw a gun described as a "50 Bore" and I wondered was this a .50 inch caliber or was it a .44" (.45") smoothbore which is 50 bore (- many 44s are 45s - but a 44 Magnum measures .429 inch !). Like many things in American society - nothing much is what it is presented as being. - American pork/beef  Hotdogs are made from dyed and flavored waste chicken & turkey slush.

I do not recomend going down this numbers game rabbit hole on Google as much confusion exists there. - I am trying to get this clear in my head - not just to be a smart prick ..

BALLS

Commonly we now use BORE & GAUGE interchangeably as meaning the same thing. It is a reference to the size of the inner diameter of the hole bored through a gun's barrel .. BUT this is NOT a linear measurement - but rather it is a "multiplicative inverse" of the weight of a spherical ball of lead as a fraction of a pound weight .. 

SO - a 1 Gauge is a gun bored to accept a ball weighing 1 Pound

a 2 Gauge is bored to use balls that come two to the pound .. (1/2 a pound)

a 4 Gauge uses leaden balls each weighing 1/4 of a pound .. four to the pound

The conversion of this, balls into a linear measurement, is complicated crap and there is a basic formula ..

- That's best ignored .. as the actual size measurement takes no interest in whether the ball is to be naked or PATCHED .. or how thick the patch material is recommended - OR if the gun is to be used with SHOT  or is it - as a Shotgun - to be 'Back Bored' to improve performance. - Or is it a rifled bore ..

Consider: A 12 Gauge Shotgun bore will vary between .720"-.740" whereas the British 'Brown Bess'  Musket started at around .750 inch (using .70 patched balls) but would grow bigger up to .80 inch caliber as they were re-bored after rough use.

You need a table to consult as to which BORE or GAUGE relates to what size hole you've got for example a '50 BORE' gun has it's smooth-bored barrel measuring internally .453 inch. approximately.

Here is a good page with Tables ..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gauge_(firearms)

CALIBER or CALIBRE is a true measure of that hole size BUT it might not be the actual size of the NAMED size as these are nominated according not only the bore but also the brass shell case size and capacity.

e.g. There are around TWENTY different power 30 caliber rifles and they don't all use the same sized bullets.

And 'rifling' only compounds the issues as some rifles are christened after their GROOVE diameters while others are sized from their LANDS. 

Then there was METRIFICATION ..

I mean for gawd's sake - the planet's politicians can't even sort-out which side of the road to drive on.

Ridiculous .. and - how the hell did my gorgeous Brigitte Bardot get to be 90 years old ?

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RUSTY, BROKEN & Unlicensed:

Joke: I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous .. 

- I bought this crappy antique relic from trademe - for something to do.

Birmingham Proofed, English Quality  piece of c**p  but only NZ$250 plus p&p

You don't get much here (or anywhere) for $250 .. but I'll try a 'Before & After' story .. that's after I've improved ruined it's "collector value"

Bloody AWFUL condition, Broken HAMMER ("with old repair")

- destroyed Nipple (crushed & rust-frozen)

That's What You Get around here - gouged Initials 

The R.H side is Rust-as-Bad

It wasn't worth $250 but it will be something to do for a few days - so I had a go at the handle wood while the metal bits were boiling (- first in detergent, then clean water ..

Gouged 'H' sanded-out, reshaped handle stained with "dark Walnut" .. that loose screwhole needs plugging. - When working on old wood that's age-darkened, any sanded repairs will stand-out light until stained back darker ..

-So after a good 'Boil-Up' without any puha, out into the garage workbench to fight with that nipple ..

YEss - It's out in a sprinkle of rust-dust after using two vicegrips and a propane flame - but then, - a hopeful search through my bag of nipples yielded only one, a stainless ROA nipple that fits, if I hack-off half the threads. Hmm. I am not an engineer.

 What a 'sad' specimen .. break filed clean for welding - But I will not be retaining its PATINA

(or that TANG !!)

- A skilled man with a welder at EAGLE ENGINEERING will do me a favour - not too far up the road in the wine growing area. - That broken hammer had been pinned some time, while it's break had been partly obscured with disgusting crud.

I would hope that the pinned but wobbly original hammer was made as a FORGING rather than a CASTING .. but the key is the chemistry of the metal (iron/steel rather than 'cast iron') and the kind of flaws that might have caused it's failure. - It feels forged and filed ..

These old antiques, as here, seem often to have been passed-on to stupid boys to play with and destroy .. so that makes it OK for me to mess with it, - moi being a stupid old boy.

Hot from the Welder .. Tobias did a good job ..

Something Like

A bit more fettling to do and it'll be half decent (or at least a 1/4 decent) .. but I find the welding FILLER ROD (chrome-moly ?) metal used is very hard & tough when compared to the hammer's original softer metal .. which may perhaps be iron rather than steel? .. I'm having to use small diamond files to reshape.- I'm no metalurgist but understand that modern steels are very much "tailored" as specific alloys (blended metals) to fit their proposed use.

Repaired Hammer, Replacement Nipple - Some Refinishing

NEXT: Well, I cocked-up .. I tried to put a bit more curve into that top tang, using pliers to bend it - and I SNAPPED IT OFF *ping* at the drilled screwhole .. 

Rusted and Porous Surfous at the Break.

New Metal Welded

Excuses sure - it was already corroded and weakened - but another trip was needed to my friends at EAGLE ENGINEERING Amberley. - I reasoned that trying to weld new metal right at the broken thin section screw hole was a bad move so we amputated back to solid metal before welding on new material .. sighs.. Actually, why am I upset? - as I wanted something to do eh .. Start cutting, drilling & grinding now.

Rough Enough but Better Than It Was ..

This old wreck kept my interest for many hours and is now a fully functional, genuine antique .36" Caliber Muzzle Loading, Black Powder Pocket Pistol with a strong main-spring - that holds on both 'Halfcock' and 'Full Cock' and releases with the trigger press. Better than new

It's got to be worth at least $250 now don't you reckon? 😂Good eh.

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RUST is a pain in the rrrse ..

Those raised SCABS on this FRIZZEN are ACTIVE RUST CORROSION

It will only get WORSE - unless someone DOES SOMETHING ..

- this is NOT "Patina"

- You need to gently scrape-off those scabs because they are porous and hold moisture that is acidic-corrosive. Probably SULPHURIC ACID and hygroscopic salts sitting there.

I bought an 'endoscope' from U S (Chinese) .. just installed the 'app' on my phone/camera - worked-out how to scan a QR code,  and how to take a pic with it .. not too shabby for an 81y.o. twat. - This is down the bore of a 200 year old rust frozen Flintlock turn-off barrel - same gun as the frizzen above.

That bore ring is where the barrel meets the powder chamber - an area where I've had Wintergreen Oil dissolving rust .. the far rusty inner recess (under the PAN & flash-hole) has not had any wintergreen treatment (yet). The next challenge is getting the barrel to unfreeze and screwing it off ..

 - You need to dig all rust out from the bottom of any pits .. or they'll get worse

Many of the dents and dings on this Adams revolver barrel are small CORROSION PITS of activity.

Get a PICK and carefully dig it ALL out - flush it and scrub with self-drying HOT water - before applying your OIL of preference, Wintergreen Oil or WAX or BALLISTOL  that is alkaline. - Whether you go further and attempt a degree of restoration depends on your starting point, - personal opinion and purpose .. are you up for a re-finish?

.. leave them rusty as they come and they'll grow ever more awful.

Do you care?

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- they are not

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