Friday 31 August 2018

AIR / SKY MARSHALS Weapons & Ammo:

Hmm, there's a lot of guess work about .. (isn't that properly called 'conjecture'?)

- Why would Korth specially develop their Lightweight aluminium 'Sky Marshal' 9 mm Revolver?

- with the correct length shorter steel cylinder for 9x19 mm ammo (- most 9 mm revolvers are adapted from guns sized for the longer .38/.357's). - WHY? - when many Air Marshals flying about are using SIG autos in .357 Sig with 'normal' ammunition?

Korth have done a proper job designing a specific ejector star mechanism that slips a wee tab into the cartridge grooves to push them out without using 'Moon Clips' - and were suggesting a RRP of US$1,700. - which is cheap for a Korth.

.. Maybe they are expecting these two (and three inch?) barreled revolvers to be used with special ammo that might not cycle the auto's mechanism. - They must surely have expected to sell them in some quantity.
Korth Sky Marshal Revolver With Side Mounted Laser.

- Way back in the Heavy-Hi-Jack era 1968 - 1972, Colts were asked to develop a fool-proof anti-Hi-Jack weapon for tech crew (pilots .. or "the drivers" as we called them when I worked in Air Cargo)

They came-up with a revolver adaptation that for security reasons had one 'pilot' carry the FRAME and the other (co-pilot) carried the CYLINDER. - Any hassle near the flight deck and they put it together ready for use.
Colts Technik  patents  US3765116 and US3780657.

Strange thing was that the Colt's cylinder was a Zytel nylon (polymer) injection molding with primers fitted in rear - and the charge & projectiles inserted from the front. .. No Ejector rod fitted as there was no cartridge case to push-out .. (it being a 'muzzle-loader').

-  A similar 'muzzle-loader' steel cylinder conversion is now 'LEGAL' for British Target Shooters to use - a "muzzle loading nitro powder" charge that uses shot shell primers.

This prototype uses molded-in steel inserts in the ZYTEL polymer cylinder ... but 'suss-out' the bullets. - These are recorded as being rather SPECIAL - in that they were made of PLASTER OF PARIS and went down the barrel in sabots that picked-up the rifling spin while protecting the fragile PoP slug.


Dry plaster or 'chalk' pills were reckoned to be effective when used against soft fleshy bipeds - but were totally frangible on harder surfaces.

TFB has an excellent history about this cancelled idea .. eventually the pilot's weren't trusted to be armed but Federal Air Marshals were and they became widespread. Link:

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/08/23/the-colt-shields/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheFirearmBlog+%28The+Firearm+Blog%29

Other Nations used their own personnel in various ways on their National Airlines - and probably still continue to today .. Certainly Austria's EKO Cobras are collecting "frequent flyer points" - and I'd bet money on Israeli El Al having some heavy metal on board.

In fact - Read all about early Mossad Sky Marshals here:

https://www.tactical-life.com/firearms/israeli-mossad-22-lrs/

9 MM Frangible For A Korth?

Israeli

STOP PRESS:
"ISRAEL Public Security Minister Gilad Erdan announced Monday that over half a million Israelis will now be eligible for firearm permits after the government decided to ease gun restrictions for the country’s hundreds of thousands of infantry veterans.
Under Erdan’s reform, Israelis who served in infantry units are immediately eligible to carry firearms.
Additionally, police officers who have received similar training, military officers ranked first lieutenant or higher, and non-commissioned officers ranked first sergeant or higher will no longer have to relinquish their weapon upon completion of service."
Sounds logical to me,
Marty K.

Thursday 30 August 2018

August 31st 2018 NYPD Ends Revolver Use:

By now the 29 remaining six-gunner New York Cops will have had three range days in the Bronx to practice their changeover skills to semi-autos.
Bronx 'Rodmans Neck' NYPD Range Has Noise Complaining Neighbors.

An interesting watershed in handgun usage I guess .. but not really "a sad day". Their authorized carry arms are Glock 17, Glock 19, and SIG 226 .. all having the heavy NY trigger pull of 10 pounds and the Glocks carry only 15 rounds (including the modified G17 gun).

Excellent weapons that will do the job. The real issue here is a serious need for the guys all to regularly TRAIN & PRACTICE with their choice weapon.

While I enjoy handling and shooting my Ruger SP101 revolvers in 327 Federal Magnum & .22 R/F - as they are fine shooting aesthetic works-of-art, in superb calibers - were I to be in a front line position my Glock 17 would be reassuringly to hand - perhaps with a revolver for back-up.

-  Glocks work .. but so do Ruger's revolvers - so I might have to fit two nice leather holsters on my heavy leather belt.



Marty K.

Monday 27 August 2018

Greg Ellifritz on Using the .22" For Self Defense:

Greg Ellifritz of ACTIVE RESPONSE TRAINING has added some further thoughts on conclusions that may be drawn from his Handgun Stopping Power Study. -  I've printed these reflections on 'two-twos' below with his generous permission:

The full study which is wholly based on recorded ACTUAL SHOOTINGS is Linked below:

https://flicense.blogspot.com/2014/01/stopping-power-study-by-greg-ellifritx.html

- Some very unexpected results disturbed a few firmly held beliefs .. but the numbers are there ..


Written by Greg Ellifritz
Since my handgun stopping power study was published last month in American Handgunner Magazine, I’ve received several questions from readers about my data.  I expected to be castigated by all the big bullet aficionados for reporting honest data about the “mouse gun” calibers. 
 That wasn’t what I received.All the email that I got was from .22 advocates telling me that I misinterpreted my data and that the .22 is the best defensive cartridge ever invented.  Really?  I’m open to an honest discussion about the relative merits of carrying a .22 in certain situations, but I promise you that if I was to grab a gun right now, knowing that I would be getting into a gunfight, my .22s would be VERY low on the list.
 Here’s a summary of the data I reported and the heart of the controversy:
Caliber% stopped after 1 shotHow many shots to stop% that did not stop
.22 (short, long, long rifle)60%1.3831%
.25 acp49%2.235%
.32 (acp and long)72%1.5224%
.380 acp62%1.7616%
9mm Luger47%2.4513%
.38 spl55%1.8717%
.357 magnum61%1.79%
.40 S&W52%2.3613%
.45 acp51%2.0814%

The .22 required the least number of shots to stop an attacker as compared to the other cartridges.  Some folks used that number to bolster their choice of the .22 as the best defensive sidearm available and criticized me when I stated that I don’t believe that’s true.  Here is one of the emails I received:
“I am surprised that you did not accept the “fact” evident in the data that the lowly .22 is actually more effective than the high power cartridges: 9mm, 40sw and 45 acp! Your statement “those are likely psychological stops rather than physical incapacitations” is not supported by any data you offer. Rather, it appears to be a purely prejudicial statement which spoils your excellent efforts at conclusions based upon data. In fact it is very counter-intuitive. You are proposing that “mouse gun” is more intimidating than a 45 ACP so it scares more people off than the very big opening in a 45 barrel!
*f you have data supporting this counter-intuitive conclusion, please share.  My conclusion is that you are doing a disservice by not acknowledging that average folks are much better off carrying .22’s for their own personnel safety. Inaccurate shot placement of high power cartridges might just get us Joe average citizens injured during an attack.”
First, let me make myself perfectly clear.  Shot placement is vitally important.  If you can’t hit with your chosen carry gun, pick something else.  You should certainly be able to pass Gila Hayes’ five rounds, five seconds, into a five inch circle, at five yards test cold, every time you shoot.  I would prefer even better performance than that.
 If you can’t meet that standard with one of the common service calibers and can do it with a .22, I would prefer that you carry the .22.  No problem at all with that decision.  But most of us don’t have a physical limitation and can learn to handle a bigger caliber with a minimal amount of training.
The reader asked me to explain why I considered the .22 stops to be more likely “psychological stops” as opposed to physical incapacitations.  That’s easy to explain and it doesn’t have anything to do with the size of the muzzle.
 There are only two mechanisms for physically incapacitating someone with a handgun.  The first is a shot to the central nervous system (CNS).  A bullet placed into the brain or the upper spinal cord will usually stop someone instantly.  Can the .22 do that?  Certainly, but I think a brain or CNS shot is less likely with the .22 than with a larger caliber.
 Arguably, the .22 is more accurate and controllable than a centerfire pistol.  That would make brain and CNS hits more likely (if one was aiming there).  The problem is the historic lack of penetration in the .22 round.  They are notorious for failing to be able to penetrate the skull.  I had a doctor in my class last weekend who told me about a patient he treated who had eight .22 bullets under his scalp and none had penetrated into his brain!  The patient was conscious, alert, and asking for a beer!
 Most .22 rounds also lack the ability to penetrate deep enough to reach the spinal cord on a front to back shot on an average human male.  It’s for these reasons that I doubt the .22 stops were the result of brain or CNS hits.
 The only other mechanism for physical incapacitation is through blood loss.  On average, a bullet that penetrates deeper and/or makes a larger hole will create more blood loss.  We already established that the .22 doesn’t penetrate very deeply and it certainly doesn’t make a big hole.  That takes blood loss out of the equation.
If the .22 bullet doesn’t cause CNS disruption or extensive blood loss, it won’t physically incapacitate an attacker.  That’s why I commented that the .22 stops are likely to be more psychological in nature.
 The data is what it is.  I can’t change that.  My study showed that people were stopped with fewer shots from the .22 than with any other caliber.  Does that mean the .22 is the best choice?  Not necessarily.  There could be other factors that caused the smaller number of shots until incapacitation…
I’m just pulling numbers out of thin air, but let’s just postulate that it takes five seconds after a person is shot for him to realize he is hit and abort the attack.  The average number could be higher or lower, but it doesn’t matter.  It will still take a few seconds for the bad guy to process the fact that he is shot and decide it’s in his best interest to escape before being shot again (a psychological stop).
If we are dealing with psychological stops and not physical incapacitations, firing additional rounds at the attacker during this five second time frame isn’t likely to influence his behavior quicker.  The processing takes the time that it takes.  Anything that will slow the rate of fire will reduce the number of rounds that the attacker soaks up before he aborts his attack.  In other words, the small number of rounds until incapacitation could be more the result of slower firing rate than superior cartridge performance.
Is the .22 likely to have a slower firing rate?  In handguns carried for defensive purposes, yes.  Most .22 defensive handguns are of relatively low quality.  They are extremely small and difficult to shoot quickly.  Compare the rate of fire between a NAA Mini revolver in .22 and a 9mm Glock.  Which do you think you could shoot faster?
The .22 rimfire round is also more prone to malfunctions than any centerfire round.  A malfunction will also decrease the rate of fire.  Rate of fire wasn’t factored into my study and could have caused the low numbers for the .22.
 Another fact that many people haven’t considered is the difference between police and armed citizen gunfights.  My friend Claude Werner often points out that when a criminal is involved in a gunfight with the police, the stakes are higher.  The criminal knows that the cops won’t stop until he’s dead or in jail.  That’s not true with a gunfight against an armed citizen.  The armed citizen just wants a break in the fight.  If he can cause the criminal to flee, he wins and stops shooting.
When criminals fight the police, they are likely to fight harder and take more rounds before giving up, because they know giving up equals a long prison sentence.  Giving up and running away when fighting an armed citizen has no such negative consequences.
Many of the gunfights involving 9mm, .40, and .45 calibers in my study were police gunfights.  Very few of the .22 data was from  police gunfights.  The very nature of the differences between the victim characteristics in the different gunfights could also account for the smaller number of rounds taken by those hit with the .22.
Here’s the good news for the .22 carriers…
 In Claude’s lifetime study of defensive gun uses, he has yet to find a single case where an armed citizen was  killed by a criminal after the criminal had taken at least one .22 round.  In the case of civilian defensive gun usage, the criminal almost always flees after the first hit.  I have been unable to find any gunfights that prove Claude wrong.
 But take a look at the third column in the table above…
 That’s the statistic that most .22 advocates choose to ignore.  It’s the percentage of people who were not physically incapacitated after any number of rounds.  It’s roughly three times higher with the .22 as compared to the service caliber cartridges.
 Yes, the criminals fled, but they were not incapacitated.  They could continue to fight back if they choose to.  If you were to face the rare motivated criminal who presses the fight, would you want a .22 or something else?  Encountering the motivated criminal who presses the fight against an armed citizen is exceedingly rare, but it is a possibility.
Should you prepare for the statistical norm or the statistical anomaly?  In my view, I think it’s best to prepare for the worst possible outcome, rather than the most likely.  Statistically, you are unlikely to ever need a gun at all, yet most of my readers want to prepare for the worst, so they carry a gun.  Why wouldn’t you use the same logic when choosing an appropriate defensive sidearm?
 My best advice to you is to carry a gun that is reliable and shoots well.  If your preference is a .22, it will probably serve you well.  My preference is to carry something a little larger whenever it’s convenient.
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Thanks Greg for all your hard work & considered thoughts .. Here is a LINK to Greg's recent AMERICAN HANDGUNNER article:

https://americanhandgunner.com/defensive-carry/
Marty K.

P.S. Here's an article about Israeli MOSSAD use of .22" rim-fires:

https://www.tactical-life.com/firearms/israeli-mossad-22-lrs/

Sunday 26 August 2018

Rebecca Peters - Aussie 'PORT ARTHUR' Gun Control 'Expert':

I listened to a Radio NZ interview Saturday morning by Kim Hill with Rebecca Peters - the woman credited with motivating Australian politicians to very speedily act to BAN & "Buy-Back" and destroy some 700,000 "weapons".

American born Rebecca Peters seems to be well intended & a most fluent & emotional speaker .. seeming to have mastered 'circular breathing' so that she never needs to pause for breath or for thought.

She described the Australian politicians as awful but claims she motivated them by providing PR opportunities.
Links:

Ms Peters has been awarded an Australian Human Rights Medal and The Order Of Australia recognizing her anti-gun activities that centered around the 1996 "Port Arthur Massacre" - when 29 y.o. Martin Bryant murdered 35 people and injured 23 in Tasmania.

When he left school - Bryant received a disability pension due to his reduced mental capacity & was diagnosed as having an IQ of 66 and suffering Autism, schizophenia borderline intellectual functioningAsperger's syndrome and antisocial personality disorder - and was reported in 1990 as "would like to go around shooting people."

His "companion" Helen Harvey died in a car accident when their car veered into the path of oncoming traffic - while Bryant - who had caused three previous road accidents by grabbing the steering wheel - was beside her. He is currently serving 35 life sentences and has repeatedly attempted suicide by slashing his wrists and neck with razor blades.

Naturally Rebecca Peters was not alone in blaming these horrific shootings on the guns - rather than on the shooter who - despite being an obvious threat to society - continued to be at liberty to kill.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Bryant

This killer and his associates were serious fruit & nutcases being 'supported' by agencies but untreated & not properly dealt with.

Gun Bans and restrictions are a 'simple response' to very complex social ills of neglect and under resourcing. - How can this 'Journalist' be recognized as an EXPERT when she ignores the fact that the Tasmanian killer was mentally & intellectually damaged and unrestrained as an ongoing Health Risk to all members of the public?

- People I talk with expect Government to look after the basics  .. Law Enforcement, Defense, Education, & Health.

.. English speaking Western Governments are corruptly failing in their elected duties by deliberately under-funding these essentials while continuing to reduce Corporate taxation.

Change is obviously needed ...

Marty K.
Note: Both Rebecca Peters and that other Australian based anti-gunner (New Zealander) Phlip Alpers use their "journalistic license skills" to push emotional opinion ahead of the serious issues of social deprivation and neglect by Government.
The horror movie White Zombie, starring Bela Lugosi depicted zombies as mindless, unthinking henchmen under the spell of an evil magician.
The "zombie apocalypse" idea, in which the civilized world is brought low by a global zombie infestation, has become a staple of modern popular media.

M.K.




Friday 24 August 2018

Stopping Power by Chuck Hawks:

It's always good to read other peoples thoughts on the popular theories & arguments  ... particularly when they are recognized as expert in the topic.

This well written consideration of the many important "self-defense" issues is worth a slow relaxed read.

Handgun Stopping Power ~ Calibers and Loads

By Chuck Hawks

LINK:

https://chuckhawks.com/handgun_stopping_power.htm

- Indeed .. if you are looking for lots of reading take a look later at their handgun site:

https://www.chuckhawks.com/index2b.handguns.htm

Perhaps you might choose to read this review of S&W (American Outdoor Brands Corporation.):

The Dark Side of Smith & Wesson

By Chuck Hawks
Link: https://www.chuckhawks.com/smith-wesson_dark.htm

and ..
Thoughts on the .327 Federal Magnum

Link:  https://www.chuckhawks.com/327_thoughts.html

I wish that I wrote as well as those guys,

Marty K.

Wednesday 22 August 2018

Colonial New Zealand - Rule By Musket & Royals:

In the 1850's here in the South Pacific there was lots of gunfire - mostly from large bore musketry. The period between 1845 and 1872 is now known as 'The Maori Wars' but there was plenty of inter-tribal warfare earlier - and some even later.

At the same time that this deadly inter-tribal rivalry was at it's hottest - white Europeans were moving into New Zealand to grab control and ownership of the best lands for settlement.
The earlier period of conflict 1807-1842 - is called 'THE MUSKET WARS' .. when in 1820 Chief Hongi Hika traveled to Sydney  .. then to London .. and again to Sydney. On all occasions he concluded trading and land-for-guns deals - gaining his first bulk consignment of some 500 muskets from Sydney in 1821.

The whole era 1800 to 1875 was truly a free-for-all punch-up with tribe against tribe and pakeha settlers circling the land with intent. Well before this time there was plenty of warfare and enemy-eating too - but the difference now is MUSKETS and cannon.

The greater armed military strength of some tribal groups gave conquest - and conquest gave slaves to work the land - more land and workers gave more produce to trade for more guns and powder.

Pigs, potatoes, smoked heads, flax, and land passed from capitalist Maori to European traders in exchange for technology, Christianity and the English Monarchy.
(That "Honi Pense" bit roughly means "Shame on the one sees something bad in it!"(what?)... The 'Dieu et mon droit' bit means "God and my right." (I know my rights).
In 1857 some Maori attempted to unify as one people by electing Pōtatau Te Wherowhero as the first Maori King to rival Queen Victoria (Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld - Reuss-Ebersdorf).

As you might guess this Kingitanga development met with a mixed response from Pakeha colonists - and from some other non-compliant tribes.

 However - to this day - here in New Zealand we have TWO royal families - the unelected Queen Elizabeth Mountbatten-Windsor II (Saxe-Coburg-Gotha) with her husband The Duke of Edinborough (Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glūcksburg - Battenberg) .. and the elected Maori King who has little recognition but is currently under scrutiny about possible financial irregularity..

A small side issue here - but it would be rude of me not to mention - The European female figure sharing our Coat of Arms with a Maori Chief - is "ZEALANDIA" (Mother of The Nation and Daughter of Britannia).

Following the election of the First National Government in 1949, the new Attorney-General, Jack Marshall requested the woman to be re-drawn based on the likeness of Grace Kelly, an American favorite actress of his. (Grace Kelly ended her film career with Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer in 1956 by becoming herself a "Royal" "Princess of Monaco" by marrying Prince Rainier III.(Rainier Louis Henri Maxence Bertrand Grimaldi).
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There was a Royal family in an US State - also Polynesian. In 1810 the islands of Hawaii were united as one Kingdom under the House of Kamehameha and the House of Kalākaua.

In 1887 the US leased Pearl Harbor - However in 1893 the Hawaiian royal family was deposed and imprisoned following a State Department approved landing by 162 US Marines & sailors from the USS 'BOSTON' in 1889.
USS BOSTON Landing Force Honolulu January 16 1893.

- It's all about control of land and the product of land .. Muskets help to secure it.

Marty K.

Tuesday 21 August 2018

Grey Ghost Precision CUSTOMIZED GLOCK:

Now I'm really not taking the piss - no, seriously I'm not ..
It's A Glock Jim, - But Not As We Know It.

For those of us working as dentists, venture bankers & lawyers - but having difficulty deciding just what custom features to invest in ... here's the GREY GHOST PRECISION COMBAT PISTOL (why isn't it 'TACTICAL' ... maybe that's another option?).

"I used to be indecisive - but now I'm not sure."

- For only three times the price of a boring old Glock 19 you can bling buy one of these that has most EVERY standard component substituted with a greatly hugely enhanced Grey Ghost Precision precise alternative.

.. With luck it might work as well as an authentic Glock 19 does eh .

Look at that UGLY flat trigger - that has to be "Tactical" surely.

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/08/20/grey-ghost-precision-combat-pistol/

For only half of that price you might buy a genuine Glock 19X in pink .. Sorry that's 'Coyote Tan'

.. Now I've bought one! - The color is less pink and more 'turd'.

Marty K.

Monday 20 August 2018

Gun Free UK VIOLENCE Worse Than US's:

Now here's a surprise - "Gun Free Since 1997 Britain" is more than FOUR TIMES more dangerous to live in than USA.

The most violent country in Europe: Britain is also worse than South Africa and U.S. 

In the ten years 1997-2007 - the number of recorded violent attacks soared by 77 per cent to 1.158 million - or more than two every minute.
Government figures show that the total number of firearm offences in England and Wales has increased from 5,209 in 1998/99 to 9,865  -  a rise of 89 per cent. 
- But they're BANNED

The figures, compiled from reports released by the European Commission and United Nations, also show: 
In the UK, there are 2,034 offences per 100,000 people, way ahead of second-placed Austria with a rate of 1,677.

The U.S. has a violence rate of 466 crimes per 100,000 residents, Canada 935, Australia 92 and South Africa 1,609.

THE UK HAS MORE THAN FOUR TIMES THE LEVEL OF VIOLENT CRIME THAN "GUN CRAZED AMERICA".

- Don't take my word for this - check it out from The Daily Mail story:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1196941/The-violent-country-Europe-Britain-worse-South-Africa-U-S.html



- I suggest that Great Britain starts a program to arm and train numbers of it's law-abiding citizens as plain clothes auxiliary police in a genuine low cost working effort to control & eliminate it's underclass of violent thugs ..

Marty K.

Sunday 19 August 2018

Defensive Gun Use - DGU Figures:

Are Guns used 'FOR GOOD' as much as they are 'FOR WRONG' ?

- I don't think that I can present any totally conclusive answers here ... well nobody else has been able to - and they are all, of course, unbiased, statistically qualified researchers eh.

Mind you (and this is a fact) - I did work as a clerk at the British Board of Trade RETAIL TRADE STATISTICS DEPARTMENT off Whitehall for a couple of years in my early twenties.(1960s).

Anyway I'm just trying to get a clear and fair picture in my head by working it out on paper.

America is the largest society where guns are relatively freely available (in most States) - and statistics on this topic are used by both pro-gun & anti-gun groups. (- Israeli stats might be interesting too).

- So there are said to be 327 Million individuals living in USA and an estimated 400 Million guns there in civilian hands.

My usual reference source Wikipedia has a lengthy page on the DGU topic. Link:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defensive_gun_use

My precis would be that guns are used defensively in USA either from (low estimate) 55,000 - 80,000 times a year to (high estimate) of 4.7 million times per year.
- Are statistics Facts?

 Some problems here are the usual issues of criteria - what IS 'Defensive Gun Use' - and how are the questions asked, and the sample sizes & methodology. (Does just showing that you are armed count .. or do you have to have drawn a gun - or to have fired it? etc.).

(- Does knowing that there are likely to be armed citizens - say in a GUN SHOP - and therefor choosing not to commit a robbery - count statistically as "an armed defense"?)

- That is an awfully wide spread to use as a measure but I'd plump for a guesstimate (my blog - my choice) of up to 1.2 million times per year. - You can argue about it among yourselves.

The other side of the equation is the FBI's Violent Crime Figure for 2015:

1,197,704 VIOLENT CRIMES COMMITTED in USA 2015.

SO - I reckon that leaves the discussion undecided eh ... Well sort of 50:50

There is NO question or debate in my mind that we all have an indisputable RIGHT TO SELF-DEFENSE.

Would there be less reliance on armed police if fit and proper citizens were armed and trained to a good level of competence? (a level similar to being a 'Deputy L.E Officer').

 - Would there be better outcomes to 'Active Shooter' and 'Terrorist Attack' events - or a reduction of frequency? - you surely know the arguments about "arming teachers" in 'gun free zones'.

. When defenseless people are attacked by violent murderers they die.

. When killers are resisted and stopped - fewer innocent people are killed.

So the answer has to be YES - maybe.
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When 77 young people were murdered by one foul scumbag in Norway 2011 (mostly on the Norwegian island of Utoya) - tragically many of the innocent kids lay down passively pretending to be dead while the killer walked among them shooting. A few jumped off the island into the sea to escape.

Marty K.

Friday 17 August 2018

Extreme & Folding Glocks:

Well I guess that any of you Dentists and Corporate Money Manipulators with plenty of $$$ might want to invest and investigate these possibilities further.


Select-Fire Glock 18. Controllable for short 3 or 4 Round Bursts @ 1,100/1,200 rpm.

- And the Folding Glock  from Full Conceal .

I seriously think that it is a genius idea ... actually an excellent idea.
But they would need to be strongly assembled with a very dependable hinge function. - Link to TFB video:

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/08/13/the-folding-glock-full-conceal-demo/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheFirearmBlog+%28The+Firearm+Blog%29

- This next guy extensively shoots one on range (after about 10 minutes of a good review): Link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6bA5uYkNA0

- who knows - in twenty years we may be wondering why all proper guns didn't fold.

North American Arms.

Ideal Conceal 'Cell Phone'

Antique Belgian 'Le NOVO' Revolver.

Now .. before I posted this story there's a further TFB piece thoroughly researched by Matthew Moss in UK. - Good work Matt - I'm linking from here to your article: LINK:


Marty K.