RUSTY, BROKEN & Unlicensed:

Joke: I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous .. 

- I bought this crappy antique relic from trademe - for something to do.

Birmingham Proofed, English Quality  piece of c**p  but only NZ$250 plus p&p

You don't get much here (or anywhere) for $250 .. but I'll try a 'Before & After' story .. that's after I've improved ruined it's "collector value"

Bloody AWFUL condition, Broken HAMMER ("with old repair")

- destroyed Nipple (crushed & rust-frozen)

That's What You Get around here - gouged Initials 

The R.H side is Rust-as-Bad

It wasn't worth $250 but it will be something to do for a few days - so I had a go at the handle wood while the metal bits were boiling (- first in detergent, then clean water ..

Gouged 'H' sanded-out, reshaped handle stained with "dark Walnut" .. that loose screwhole needs plugging. - When working on old wood that's age-darkened, any sanded repairs will stand-out light until stained back darker ..

-So after a good 'Boil-Up' without any puha, out into the garage workbench to fight with that nipple ..

YEss - It's out in a sprinkle of rust-dust after using two vicegrips and a propane flame - but then, - a hopeful search through my bag of nipples yielded only one, a stainless ROA nipple that fits, if I hack-off half the threads. Hmm. I am not an engineer.

 What a 'sad' specimen .. break filed clean for welding - But I will not be retaining its PATINA

(or that TANG !!)

- A skilled man with a welder at EAGLE ENGINEERING will do me a favour - not too far up the road in the wine growing area. - That broken hammer had been pinned some time, while it's break had been partly obscured with disgusting crud.

I would hope that the pinned but wobbly original hammer was made as a FORGING rather than a CASTING .. but the key is the chemistry of the metal (iron/steel rather than 'cast iron') and the kind of flaws that might have caused it's failure. - It feels forged and filed ..

These old antiques, as here, seem often to have been passed-on to stupid boys to play with and destroy .. so that makes it OK for me to mess with it, - moi being a stupid old boy.

Hot from the Welder .. Tobias did a good job ..

Something Like

A bit more fettling to do and it'll be half decent (or at least a 1/4 decent) .. but I find the welding FILLER ROD (chrome-moly ?) metal used is very hard & tough when compared to the hammer's original softer metal .. which may perhaps be iron rather than steel? .. I'm having to use small diamond files to reshape.- I'm no metalurgist but understand that modern steels are very much "tailored" as specific alloys (blended metals) to fit their proposed use.

Repaired Hammer, Replacement Nipple - Some Refinishing

NEXT: Well, I cocked-up .. I tried to put a bit more curve into that top tang, using pliers to bend it - and I SNAPPED IT OFF *ping* at the drilled screwhole .. 

Rusted and Porous Surfous at the Break.

New Metal Welded

Excuses sure - it was already corroded and weakened - but another trip was needed to my friends at EAGLE ENGINEERING Amberley. - I reasoned that trying to weld new metal right at the broken thin section screw hole was a bad move so we amputated back to solid metal before welding on new material .. sighs.. Actually, why am I upset? - as I wanted something to do eh .. Start cutting, drilling & grinding now.

Rough Enough but Better Than It Was ..

This old wreck kept my interest for many hours and is now a fully functional, genuine antique .36" Caliber Muzzle Loading, Black Powder Pocket Pistol with a strong main-spring - that holds on both 'Halfcock' and 'Full Cock' and releases with the trigger press. Better than new

It's got to be worth at least $250 now don't you reckon? 😂Good eh.

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RUST is a pain in the rrrse ..

Those raised SCABS on this FRIZZEN are ACTIVE RUST CORROSION

It will only get WORSE - unless someone DOES SOMETHING ..

- this is NOT "Patina"

- You need to gently scrape-off those scabs because they are porous and hold moisture that is acidic-corrosive. Probably SULPHURIC ACID and hygroscopic salts sitting there.

I bought an 'endoscope' from U S (Chinese) .. just installed the 'app' on my phone/camera - worked-out how to scan a QR code,  and how to take a pic with it .. not too shabby for an 81y.o. twat. - This is down the bore of a 200 year old rust frozen Flintlock turn-off barrel - same gun as the frizzen above.

That bore ring is where the barrel meets the powder chamber - an area where I've had Wintergreen Oil dissolving rust .. the far rusty inner recess (under the PAN & flash-hole) has not had any wintergreen treatment (yet). The next challenge is getting the barrel to unfreeze and screwing it off ..

 - You need to dig all rust out from the bottom of any pits .. or they'll get worse

Many of the dents and dings on this Adams revolver barrel are small CORROSION PITS of activity.

Get a PICK and carefully dig it ALL out - flush it and scrub with self-drying HOT water - before applying your OIL of preference, Wintergreen Oil or WAX or BALLISTOL  that is alkaline. - Whether you go further and attempt a degree of restoration depends on your starting point, - personal opinion and purpose .. are you up for a re-finish?

.. leave them rusty as they come and they'll grow ever more awful.

Do you care?

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"Revolvers Are Simple"? - & a Lesson at Using a Shotgun Properly:

REVOLVERS have around 50-60 parts, give or take a few depending on the model, if you count all the pins and small bits like springs and such - Of those, some 20 or so are directly involved with making sure the cylinder lines-up correctly with the forcing cone at the right time - when the gun fires. Or, in other words, they’re involved in “timing” the revolver. 

Single-Action Revolvers mostly have fewer parts than Double Action revolvers - mostly - but this is variable depending on which ideas are tried by the designers copying other guns or are changed for reasons of 'originality'.

In the movie ALIENS - 'Newt' says "We'd better get back, 'cause it'll be dark soon, and they mostly come at night... mostly."

Inside an old S&W Revolver

For the idiots out there (Politicians, Senior Police, 'Anti-Gun Campaigners', and "Do-Gooders") .. REVOLVERS are so-called because they have a CYLINDER that REVOLVES - whereas other types of pistols - not having a revolving cylinder - are NOT called revolvers.

Revolvers are pistols - but pistols are not revolvers ..

This is a CYLINDER - Seen from the rear:

Again, - for the parasitic anti-gun morons like HERA COOK at Otago University (- a specialist in womens pudenda - she knows what a c*nt is) - a revolver cylinder is a cylindrically shaped metal component that contains a firearms multiple CHAMBERS. - Revolvers are sometimes refered to as "SIXGUNS" - but many revolvers have Five, Seven, Eight or Ten or more chambers ..

A Ruger "sixgun" .22" LR Cylinder:

When firing a revolver - double-action or single-action - if you notice bits of lead stinging your hands or face - this is a strong sign that the pistols TIMING is dangerously faulty and it should not be used until proper repairs are completed.

Incidentally - there are those other misguided morons of a different ilk who insist that the safety has to be turned-off revolvers before shooting them .. when most revolvers do not have a "Safety" switch.

This is The Safety of a Firearm ..

I used to run on range firearms use sessions as an instructor and had few 'issues' with visitors 30-40 years ago - back in the '90s - but more recent school graduates - seem to specialize in completely ignoring instructions and have evolved a blank staring, slack-jawed, pouty face that requires instant removal from the zone - for their carer to refresh medications and to counsel them.

- Just saying ..

This person has recently moved fresh supplies of NUCLEAR WARHEADS to England and is reportedly claiming to have moved two nuclear missile armed submarines closer to Russia.

Can someone please hold his attention by waving his favorite toy before his eyes while two large medics approach from the rear with a straitjacket ?

What do you call a childishly stupid adult?: Emotionally immature! Someone's psychological or emotional age is often evident in emotional reactions and habits. Signs of emotional immaturity/childishness include. emotional escalations, blaming, lies, and name calling. Someone who is emotionally childish may also have poor impulse control, need to be the center of attention, or engage in bullying, manipulation, and abuse!

Right after I wrote this piece - this video from my favorite old timer Jack Hargreaves popped-up on YouTube ..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gazcYX1_mUM

Good Stuff. - Perhaps, if I'd had some expert tuition on shotgunning at clays I might be less useless than I am at moving targets ..

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BOXERS and BERDANS Primers - What about BENET and SMOOT?

Primers are tiny explosive charges that detonate the main propellant charge in a firearm by the triggered hammer-blow. We know these things could be dangerous and need to be handled with care - 

Unlike the multiple explosive charges that are hidden into all "modern" cars - as many as SIX TO TEN or more explosive charges .. called by the Marketing Men AIRBAGS. Deliberate Deception.

They are nothing to do with "air" and these exploding inflators can and do cause injuries.

I never had a clue that our primers are wrongly named or wrongly attributed by the Sales liars - Well, I'd not really thought about it at all .. PRIMERS that is - and their historic development.

You could call me "Pig Ignorant" about this - please do, - and you'd be right.

That's a PRIMER in there.

If I had seen those cartridges I'd have said 'old RIM FIRES' not centerfire cartridges with internal primers.

We all have stuff that we know little or nothing about - that's fine as long as we don't pretend that we do know .. The Corrected History indicates that BOXER primers are not properly named.

Two Interesting stories to read - well researched :- Linked:

https://gunsmagazine.com/guns/throwing-down-with-the-saa/

To be even further honest - I didn't really know what "throwing down" was ..

And the second piece of Reading Homework .. linked

https://www.reloadingtool.com/primers-in-america

This is very detailed and fine writing about Metallic Cartridges - their PRIMERS and PATENTS history.

I am not in any way qualified to write about this stuff .. And it needs to be said that if you can't be bothered to read THE FACTS you won't suffer much at all - like you won't lose your job or be expelled from your Masonic Lodge whatever.

- It's just that there is SO MUCH BULLSHIT & Marketing SPIN around, - it is refreshing to sometimes get the truth .. Presently, the whole Western political narrative is nonsensical 'spin' with every accusation made of Chinese, Iranian & Russian aggression and terrorism being a transferance of the facts. UK and U S leaders seem to be believing their own propaganda machines.

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Wouldn't it be nice .. GREAT even - if it was a criminal offence to LIE?

Are Multiple Projectiles a load of Old Balls or an Obsession?

 A few weeks back I asked if anyone out there has experience loading-shooting 'Duplex' Loads' in muzzleloaders.. Well I got the usual response ..

Question: Does anyone have any clues about double-balling loads in blackpowder shooting? - This is what I understand as a 'Duplex Load'. Two round balls would weigh similarly to a 'conical' bullet and provided they both are solidly seated on the propellent charge no issues.

In NZ this might be regarded as 'unlawful' ?

- My research suggests this is known throughout history as useful at medium-close ranges. Thompson Centre Arms used to list double ball loads in their paperwork ..

https://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/threads/double-balling.43584/

It seems - however unlikely - that I know MORE about throwing two balls down-range - than the rest of 5 Million Kiwis - well, at least I have done it in the past and written stories about accurately throwing multiple holes into cardboard targets. I must be odd or perhaps obsessive.

Over years past I have loaded twin pills into brass cartridges for my Glock G20 10mm Auto - my beautiful Ruger SP101 327 Federal Magnum revolver - and my oversized & heavy 6 inch GP Ruger 357 Magnum revolver.

THROWING TWINS

- The Antiques are there as 'props'

A 10mm Auto Duplex

What goes into a 327 Federal Magnum Duplex Cartridge:

The key feature with 'modern' guns is to select a cartridge that is LONG ENOUGH to accept two (or three) projectiles in tandem - and pistols that are strong enough not to fall apart.

The 'bullets' don't have to be the same weight, shape or length .. in the Glock I used two truncated cones loaded 'base-to base', in the 357, one cast bullet plus a lead ball - and in the 327 Fed. I used a jacketed round-nose with a lead ball against the powder.

NATURALLY ! - you start with a reduced powder charge to suite the heavy projectile mass and check for pressure signs on the brass and that both pills have cleared the barrel and arrived on target down range. (Note: Don't use a "Desert Eagle" as these are observed to fall apart all by themselves - I've never owned one)

In American lore - There is mention of "I had put four bullets into my arquebus .. and with this shot two chiefs fell to the ground dead and a third wounded died later" when civilizing a party of Iroquois natives in 1609.

- the firearm used was a shoulder fired Matchlock: Guns On The Early Frontiers- Carl P Russell

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https://flicense.blogspot.com/2018/10/first-ever-recorded-firearm.html

In Scotland, 1570 - "James Hamilton was called "of Woodhouslee" and "of Woodhouslee alias Bothwellhaugh" in the record.
 He was said to have shot Regent Moray twice in the belly and navel on 23 January 1570, with a gun loaded with two lead balls. - By his flight to France he had taken responsibility for the treason and murder."

We need to note the difference between multiple bullets of correct bore size, - from "Shot Loads" that are multiple sub-caliber projectiles for a "scatter gun".

Note: NZ Police have Banned Duplex Cartridges in the last round of amendments.

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'Diplomacy' Versus Military Armed Enforcement:

The United States of America has some 750 military bases around the planet. There may be more installations or 'facilities' that are not listed as 'Bases' or indeed, there will be mixed narrative descriptions of some locations - if for example a neighborhood is temporarily of interest (- just passing) OR it might be manned by CONTRACTORS as opposed to serving personel. - Here in New Zealand Operation Deep Freeze at Christchurch's Harewood Airport is operated as an U S Military Base with frequent aircraft movements while Mount John Observatory was built as a joint enterprise with Pennsylvania University..

NOT Bases: The very large EMBASSY of USA in Beirut, Lebanon that occupies 44 acres is said to be second in size to the U S Embassy in Baghdad Iraq - that is stated to be 43 acres .. 

Beirut

BAGHDAD

These embassies are the centers for America's diplomatic activity in these nations - I have no idea what measure of size or importance is recorded ( or how many CIA or Marines are based there).

The current 'America First' policy from the Whitehouse may see withdrawals from some localities - but I'd doubt that places like GUAM will see any reductions ..

GUAM

If Guam is listed as "United States" as above - does it even count as an overseas base ?

So many questions eh ..

U.S. Air Force C17-A Globemaster in Christchurch NZ

There are around ten U S Bases in Australia - depending on what you exclude/include ..

You are , of course, aware that America sent 16 warships - The GREAT WHITE FLEET - in 1908 to investigate invading Auckland - as preparation to INVADING AUSTRALIA ?

https://navyhistory.au/american-plans-for-invading-new-zealand-australia-part1/2/

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SHOVE IT .. an ENDOSCOPE Camera ..

 OK - that is what this thing has printed on the carton - 'ENDOSCOPE CAMERA' - but I'd call it a "Flexible Borescope" as it isn't intended to be used for medical examination. (not by me anyway)

- Don't ask me WHY did I buy this from USA - when it was made in China and - I could have bought it from AliExpress for one tenth of the price - sighs .. When will I learn to check my impetuosity?

There It Is:

If you've not read my stuff before - the antique 'Ottoman' flintlock in that pic was received loaded with ball and powder underneath a blockage that might have been chewed wood from some nesting insect .. 

This what I got after buying that drill bit and collecting the detritus .. I drilled all the way through the soft lead ball - reducing it to swarf.

- And after 100-150 years perhaps .. the damp powder charge still went POOF when ignited.

- You gotta be careful eh.

So I have managed to install this magic wand-scopey-thing onto my phone-camera and I now spend my wakeful hours trying to find uses for it, to justify wasting spending my pension dollars on it.

NO - It is not available for do-it-yourself COLONOSCOPY ..

On The Way in .. This 5/8" caliber Ottoman Flintlock needs the 

Oil of Wintergreen Rust Treatment eh.

Rust is INSIDIOUS stuff .. nasty.

At The Bottom:

That is one ugly looking Breech Plug - Don't members of the LGBTQI A+ community use breech plugs?

Either way - there seems to be an inwards BULGE down there that isn't visible from the exterior so I now have another task - to dissassemble and investigate the citee-ayshun. 

It looks like it may have had one hell of a whack .. (or not?). Surely if it's an inwards bulge that would be OK?- or is that a "thickening" at the vent?

Either way I'm having fun playing with these things and learning ..

I tell you what .. in the last several years I have lost my only sister and her good husband Fred - and FIVE of my best long time mates .. I only hope that they were having as much fun as me in their life and that there might be better things now that they have passed.

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Old Shooters NEVER Die ..

- I was very sad to learn that my old kiwi mate 'PRICKLES' Tony Sillars has succumbed after living for many years following a cerebral stroke. - I had only spoken to him on the phone a few weeks earlier.

He was a huge collector of cartridge firearms. - His house, loft-space, garage, workshop, and shed all were stacked with rare items ( you would have loved his beautiful 45-70 that we bought in Sydney on one shooting trip for several thousand real dollars.

One year we attended both the Sydney and The Melbourne Gun Shows as well as touring all the Gun Shops in both citys by public transport with much walking .. It needs to be recorded that Tony COULD NOT PASS a pub or bar without entering for a few VBs - including gay bars on carnival week .. I truly suffered - becoming beer-logged with Tony. - Good Times.

Tony once told me that he had been buying guns since he was 14 y.o. and had only sold ONE in 60 years and that was a sporterized Lee-Enfield he flicked to me cheap and that I got converted to 7.62x39mm Russian and adapted to take a 30 round AK Magazine .. this tool I took into the Police ChCh HQ and shoved it into the arms officer's face saying "NOW BAN THIS". He, good cop that he was - with my permission, took it into the inner recesses to illuminate his most senior administrators day.

- We went winter pig hunting in the Cunnamulla area of Australia many times - plus around Lightning Ridge for competitions (The Opal Open) - BUT in all those trips - Tony, who truly loved his shooting sports, guns and reloading - NEVER ONCE fired at any animal. He would sight-in his guns out on the properties and ride the 4WD trucks for hours with a rifle in hand - but when nominated to take the first shot he would fumble the bolt and mumble about a jam or faulty spring - until someone else took the shot. - He was a lifelong member of the RSPCA. - We were so familiar to trans-Tasman flight crews of the airline we both worked for - that they would apologise to us if they couldn't upgrade us into business class!!

These Australian trips were with Aussie airline shooter mates into the center - up the Mitchell Highway - regularly with both trucks towing trailers stacked with food, beer, and cider, rifles and ammo. One good joker, 'Fred' had been a chef and - did he look after us. WOW - me, I always did the washing-up and preparation help. 

Fresh caught Yabbies, boiled with garlic highly acclaimed

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Marty K.

 

Almost A Nice Pair:

 You can't beat holding a nice pair eh ..

ALMOST a pair - the sharp eyed will spot 12mm difference in barrel length and the hammers don't really match.

I found them maybe a year apart, - both smooth-bore .44" Pocket Pistols were battered, rusty, corroded messes and both were offered on trademe New Zealands on-line Auction site. - When received these were really in 'relic' condition.

A lot of my time has gone into RUST removal and restoration. - Well it's more than that .. I have re-finished these old muzzle loading antiques - and they needed it. - Both had crushed nipples seized in place .. that were a pig to extract - and had awful surface corrosion, pitting, filing marks and gouges.  .. And these two pistols have been my first try at using Oil of Wintergreen as a rust remover and penetrating oil.

Expert collecters will be jostling for space to tell the world that I have RUINED these guns value . but they were well ruined before they came to me.

I've tried to stop the corrosion and to diminish the worst damage - while retaining an aged character and "patina" while restoring them to working condition. - I also 'matched' their curves & profiles a little into conformity.

I like to think that these unmarked antiques both came from the Birmingham England outworkers groups of the 1850s and '60s and have enough of a family resemblance to be almost a pair of plain guns .. despite one seller describing the longer barreled pistol as "French". But they might easily be from Belgium (or France). I'm just guessing but I like the feel of both. When I was new to buying collectibles I didn't much like the look of those 'bag shaped' grips - preferring the slab sided stocks .. but when gripped as for firing, in the hand - the rounded bagshapes are very comfortable.

They might be the sort of low cost tool sold with powder & ball in a paper bag, on the Aussie harbourside wharves to 'new chums' headed for the gold diggings.

PAIRS of PISTOLS are also known a 'A brace of pistols'. - If one is good then TWO has to be better eh. The fastest reload has to be grabbing a spare backup gun. Buccaneers & Pirates are often depicted as being well armed for their jobs ..

I think fancy pairs of embellished pistols have long been gifted to the Master as bribes while matched pairs were needed for "fairness" back when Dueling was fashionable.

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P.S. I just read again this piece by Elmer Keith. It's BRILLIANT so give it a read ..

https://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/threads/keith-article-on-cap-and-ball-pistols-long.11474/

Beaumont Adams Pocket Pistol ..Best of British?:

Police Te Tari Pureke say that more than a third of all firearms licence holders have registered their firearms, with New Zealand’s Firearms Registry recording its 400,000th gun now linked to an individual licence holder. Te Tari Pureke – Firearms Safety Authority, says the 400,000th firearm was one of more than 1000 guns added to the Registry in one day, on 1 May. These firearms are held by 81,400 individual licence holders, or 36 percent of licenced gun owners in New Zealand.

In other words - around two thirds of NZ Licensed Firearms Owners continue to avoid registering their legally owned guns.

WILL POLICE PLEASE EXPLAIN HOW A LIST OF LEGAL FIREARM SERIAL NUMBERS AND THEIR LOCATIONS ACHIEVES ANYTHING - OTHER THAN A SHOPPING LIST FOR CRIMINAL HOME INVADERS, THIEVES & NUTTERS:

 - WOULD TE TARI PUREKE COLLATE A LIST OF ALL SWORN POLICE OFFICERS & THEIR HOME ADDRESSES TO ADVANCE CRIME FIGHTING?

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I seem to have bought a well used antique English 'Beaumont Adams' five shot 4" revolver made by London Armoury Co. .. which indicates it's manufacture date to 1856-59 - claimed to be .31" blackpowder caliber, - but I measure the chambers at 0.335"- and the rifled muzzle bore at .340 inch.

Caliber: 120 bore aka .338" or .340" ?- Depending on who you read ..

This suggests Hollow base .34 Conicals required to be historically correct .. and a chamber reamer needed (or some fine abrasive paper wound around a dowel) as - for accuracy, the chambers ought to be slightly larger than the rifled bore.

 The trigger return spring was 'at fault' (missing) - but I have made one from a 4 mm wide steel strip off an old hacksaw blade, cut, heated & bent into a fitted Vshape. - Fixed.

- Yeah I know it's yet another one - don't tell my wife (ex). - It's an old mans' indulgence.

That 'SAW HANDLE' makes for a Comfortable Grip:

I am learning as I go here - BUT it seems that old timers made their guns in 120 Gauge, .34 inch caliber, as well as .28 inch and .40 inch - not forgeting the more standard .36 inch (Navy) and .44 inch (Army) guns. - I read that Allen & Wheelock 'pepper-box' pistols were commonly .34".

- Might this confusing mix of ball sizes account for some of the CHAINFIRE incidences - that may have been caused by flame leakage ??

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- NZ Police Arms & Ballistics Officer G G Kelly writes in Chapter 12 of his book 'THE GUN IN THE CASE'  about a Deane & Adams Revolver taken from a museum exhibit seventy-five years after the Maori Wars in Taranaki - The revolver had sat in storage for decades with two chambers loaded .. until a sixteen year old boy experimating with mixed percussion caps in an attic, after nicking the gun, set-off the old powder & the heavily oxidized lead bullet with unintended but deadly impact into his own temple. - Two loaded chambers had remained "live" in the cylinder perhaps for as long as 75 years.

- That's an interesting book if you find one at a school fair ..

Robert Adams 1810-1870 was a very active revolver designer and manufacturer of the mid 1800's. He may have been a difficult man to work with, as he changed partnerships many times - but his Revolvers were the very first "self cocking revolvers" and were highly successful and reliable - to the extent that Sam Colt failed to take-over the British market because they preferred the Adams's.

 This revolver is a Beaumont-Adams - but I'm thinking that there are sliding links between English makers Adams, Deane - to Deane, Adams & Deane - to Beaumont-Adams, - London Armoury Company, to Tranter & Kerrs & then to Kerr's Patent Revolvers .. In 1867 Robert's cousin? John Adams left 'London Armoury Co' to set-up 'Adams Patent Small Arms Co.' .. other associated names later are Kynoch Gun Factory (Aston Arms Factory) (& Tranter Brothers Gunmakers) and Kynoch/Schlund - then on again to BSA British Small Arms. (note: Kerr & Adams were cousins.)

You might say that these English gunmakers had flexible incestuous relationships .. working together to the extent that Adams often relied upon frames manufactured by William Tranter to manufacture his own revolvers! 

The U S link seems to be Civil War sales, with several hundred Adams guns made under licence by the Massachusetts Arms Company 1857-61 - while Adams revolvers were made on the European mainland in Belgium by, for one, PIRLOT FRERES (brothers).

When in 1867 - Robert Adams brother?/cousin? John Adams set-up in competition - with a freshened, cartridge design, it was adopted by the British Military as the official sidearm for the army until 1880.

There is a variety of progressively developed "Adams" type revolvers out in the antique collectors world .. enough to spend lots of $$$$ on while searching for examples. Then there are the later breech loading Cartridge guns ..

As pointed-out by a mate .. I do seem to be building up a sizable collection of antique sidearms and pocket carry pistols eh.

Note: The early Adams revolvers were made without levers to ram home the bullets, so the bullets had to be pushed into the chambers by hand - these projectiles used "spiked" pills to hold a waxed WAD of leather or wool felt to the base, that was meant to lock the loose fitting projectiles in place in the chambers ..

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