Wednesday, 30 August 2017

FLAT SHOOTING GUNS ---------------------- BS :

Do you realize that tomorrow is the First Day Of *SPRING* here in New Zealand?

- So I've had a go at DEBUNKING the widely used & popular myths of "STOPPING POWER" (I'm getting fairly sick of that debate!😁) and "KNOCK-DOWN POWER".

They are 'concepts' that just don't exist in any measurable or provable degree. - Use of such phrases come with the same old sales stink as "power-burner helps you to loose weight" & "80% of users thought that our wrinkle cream made them look younger". - Do you buy that BS?

What's next then .. How about "FLAT SHOOTING" ? (Some of my mates are getting into long range rifle 😄)

I have read that the bullet from a 338 Lapua * arrives at it's target some 1,400 yards down range - from the height of a three story building. *- quoted as fired from a 26 inch barrel Savage Model 112.
- Is that "flat shooting"?

Them that understand these things state that every bullet that is fired horizontally will hit the ground at the same time as one that you drop simultaneously ... because they are both effected by the same weak force ..gravity.


"You have horizontal and vertical planes for velocity and acceleration. For both bullets, there is initially no vertical velocity and the only net force acting upon them is gravity. You would then expect them to act similarly in the vertical plane, which is why they both hit the ground at the same time. There is nothing in the forward motion of the shot bullet that counteracts the pull downward from gravity (such as lift)."

.. There really are extensive discussions about what is the "flattest shooting" hunting round. Writers get paid for this stuff! - all arguing about a concept that does not - in reality - exist. - Every bullet fired drops at the same rate relative to time.

Try seeing if you can soak-up what WIKIPEDIA has to say. Link:


It's actually all about **VELOCITY**

So at a given range - a bullet fired at twice the velocity of another will (generally) arrive in half the time - and therefor will have dropped half as much.

Yes - Bullets with a better drag coefficient decelerate (Loose Velocity) less rapidly.

Pistol Bullets Need Not Apply For Aerodynamics Awards.


.. But IF you do double the velocity for a range of say 200 meters - you should get half the drop - eg. shoot a 200 gn. 'flat-shooting' 10mm Glock 20 at 1,300 ft. per second rather than a 200 gn..45 acp at 650 ft. per sec. from a 1911.  - Is that "flat shooting" ?

Note: A 230 gn. FMJ .45" ACP slug might have an awful 'BC' of .162

- Some more interesting Q & As here - Link:


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Sales teams and media "experts" will still imply that their guns or ammunition are "Flat Shooting"!


I don't need to say that we get the 'line of sight' thing eh;
Be Happy - Life is Good,

Marty K.





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