Tuesday 6 February 2018

Spoon Tip Projectiles Tumble:

Did you ever hear anyone complaining about how small the bullet wounds are produced by .303" British rifles (17 million made) and Mosin-Nagants (37 million made) .. Maybe calling them "mouse guns"?

- how about the other .30" caliber rounds - like the Russian designed AK47's 7.62x 39 mm rounds? (75-100 million guns made).

- But when the .32" ACP - or the other, rimmed and "bottle-necked" 7.62mm 'thirty-two' pistol calibers are mentioned nowadays it's likely that some 96% of those talking will sneer about how puny and undersized they are .. which is kinda strange considering it is exactly the same bore diameter to within the thousandth of an inch as those military rifles.

32"ACP Can Be Fired From .303" Rifle 
With A Chamber Insert (Middle)

I'm not for one split second suggesting that they are anything like as powerful  as those rifle rounds but the true differences in external ballistics are merely weight and velocity.. (merely !).

But surely "horses for courses" applies here? - there is a reason why there aren't many .308" or .303" pistols made for 'carry' .. they would be very scary-hot to shoot from the 'Weaver" stance eh.

 - Whereas a handgun in that same most effective bore size is only required to achieve something like twelve inches penetration in ballistic gelatin - as specified by the FBI protocol - furthermore nine inches is thought enough by some experts ..

In May 1998, INS/U.S. Border Patrol held an "ammunition symposium" at the Firearms Training Unit in Altoona PA, which included representatives from the U.S. Army, various ammunition companies, and independent testing labs. Following two days of discussions a report was issued which included a 9 inch minimum penetration standard.

Those rifle calibers would also be discounted for carry handguns due to over-penetration and of course for excessive recoil and the bulky weight of the pistol even when fired from the legendary "FBI Crouch"


'Classic' FBI Crouch.
Here's a link to video & an interesting piece on enhanced Thirty-two "spoon tip rounds" - altered to be unstable and to tumble.
Spoon Tip
Link:

http://www.brassfetcher.com/Handguns/32%20ACP/32%20ACP.html

Anyone with a thoughtful nature can "suss-out" the separate features of a long range hunting /battle rifle cartridge compared to the necessary attributes of a short range handgun.

- Sure I can see some benefit of punching a larger (.45" dia. ?) hole in a paper bulls-eye target when the difference between an '8' or a '9' on the line can be critical in the score totals. - Indeed if I had spare dollars I'd easily be sold a big-bore Ruger Number 1 in 45-70 caliber.
Ruger No. 1 - How About a 500gn 45-70 Bullet @  1,900 feet per second ?
- For REAL Men.

However I think that the generally disparaging view of "mouse guns" is very much tilted by
 shooting journalists writing views that bigger is better .. and MAGNUMS rule.

They are of course selling / marketing the industry's fashion trend of "bigger is better". - The motor industry does that same up-sizing constantly - look at a recent Honda Civic - that used to be a mini-car back in 1972 .. yesterday I was behind a Civic that was up the tailpipe of an Aussie built Ford Falcon family saloon on State Highway 7 - driving through The Hurunui - and they were for all visual comparisons the same size now.
.44" Magnum Automag.
A Bigger BANG is fine as long as you don't flinch - can control it (nor break your collar bone) - and not spray it all over the place like a mad woman peeing in the snow.

That superior gender (with two extra chromosomes) ... has been known to state "It's not the size - but what you do with it that counts"

- Bullet Placement eh.

Here's another wee link to a discussion on making & using "Spoon-Tip" rounds:

https://www.thektog.org/threads/spoon-tip-32-acp-bullet-performance.257865/

That offset facet "spoon-nose" seems likely worth exploring if you're a jello-freak - but it might be too costly to get the gelatin down here. Has anyone tried re-melting jello to re-form / refresh it?

- Here's another Link to an excellent discussion on selecting self defense ammunition (For military, Law Enforcement, & non New Zealand citizens):

https://www.hipointfirearmsforums.com/articles/choosing-self-defense-ammunition.130/

Marty K.

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