Quiz 4 U: Early Brass Cartridge Found in Thames:

More filthy finds from London's Thames River - two pieces of small arms ammunition spotted in minutes (from the nation where both guns & ammo are banned 😙) .. is the first a .577" Snider-Enfield - in service from 1867 .. or a slightly later .577-450" Martini-Henry round  - Or? ..

Link to Mudlarking discovery:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmPK08s81Qc

Hi Marty

Those three rounds (Below) are all .577/.450 Martini-Henry rounds.  The left one is an original foil wrapped Boxer (1880’s), the right one is a late production Kynoch commercial (circa 1960’s), and the centre one is an Eley cartridge (pre 1920’s) that has been reloaded as can be deduced from the nickeled primer (the correct period primers were copper). Rod.

- Or might the Thames round be a 'CADET' round - as in the cartridge on the right below?

I Certainly Don't Know.

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/britishmilitariaforums/cartridge-id-quiz-t5523.html

- An interesting discussion for any expert cartridge collectors eh.

Hi Marty

 I didn’t watch it all the way through but the first cartridge (on the video) is definitely not a .577 Snider or .45 M-H but appears to be very similar to a .450 No 1 Musket (a popular target cartridge in the 1870’s and 80’s) and the second appears to be a 9mm Para.

Cheers

Rod

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