ABJECT FAILURE of UK & Australian GUN BANS:

Our New Zealand Police and their tame politicians regularly voice their opinions based on the "success and necessity" of the UK Mother Country's ban on civilian firearm's ownership - as justification for their attacks on sporting gun users here in New Zealand .. despite their own NZ crime figures showing no issue resulting from the historic granting of firearms licences to 'Fit & Proper Persons'.
- Here's a factual  list ..

United Kingdom Mass Shootings since the 1997 Firearms Act Amendment:

Imperial Gardens Nightclub Shootout\Norman Lindsay Murder 1997 1 Dead & 3 wounded by firearm

Orchids Nightclub Hackney Shoot-out, 1999 7 wounded by firearm

Rochdale Shooting, 1999 5 wounded by firearm

Chicago Nightclub Yardie Shooting, 2000 8 wounded by firearm

Belfast Rex Bar Attack, 2000 4 wounded by firearm

Hayfield Pub Shooting \ Hugh Scott Murder , 2001 1 Dead & 3 injured by firearm

Darren Bell Murder, 2001 1 Dead & 3 wounded by firearm

Peter Denyer Murders, 2001 4 Dead by firearm

Birmingham New Year Party Shootings, 2003 2 Dead & 3 wounded by firearm

West Belfast Highfield estate Paramilitary-Style Attack, 2003 4 wounded by firearm

Premonitions Nightclub Shooting, 2004 1 Dead & 3 wounded by firearm

Croydon Spotlight nightclub Shootings, 2004 2 Dead & 3 wounded by firearm

Birmingham Ruthies Cafe Shooting, 2005 4 wounded by firearm

Newcastle Burrendale Park Road Shooting, 2005 4 wounded by firearm

Brass Handles Pub Shooting, 2006 2 Dead & 2 wounded by firearm

David Bradley Murders, 2006 4 Dead by firearm

Ipswich Zest Nightclub Shooting, 2006 1 Dead & 3 wounded by firearm. 1 wounded by stabbing

Sheffield Beeley Wood pub shooting, 2006 4 wounded by firearm

Broomhall Sheffield Drive By Shooting, 2009 1 Dead & 3 wounded by firearm

Massereene Barracks shooting, 2009 2 Dead & 4 wounded by firearm

Cumbria Shootings, 2010 12 Dead & 11 wounded by firearm

Custard Factory Birmingham Nightclub Shooting, 2010 4 wounded by firearm

St James’s Crescent in Brixton Shooting, 2010 5 wounded by firearm

Coach House pub Shootings, 2011 1 Dead & 3 wounded by firearm

Homerton Shooting \ East London Shooting, 2012 5 wounded by firearm

Horden Shootings, 2012 4 Dead & 1 wounded by firearm

Bootle Shotgun attack, 2012 4 wounded by firearm
Dale Cregan Cotton Tree Pub Shooting, 2012 1 Dead & 3 wounded by firearm
Birmingham City Centre Costcutter Hockley Shooting, 2015 4 wounded by firearm
Brady Street Shooting \ Whitechapel Playground Shooting, 2016 4 wounded by firearm
Forest Gate Drive By shooting, 2016 5 wounded by firearm
Doncaster Drive By Shooting \ Cantley Lodge Pub shooting, 2017 4 Wounded by firearm
Manchester Moss Side Shooting August, 2018 10 wounded by firearm
Birmingham Barbeque Shooting July, 2019 4 Wounded by firearm

.. But we BANNED GUNS ...

.. Now if they 'd like to make any excuses regarding violent crime levels in our British homeland .. I add further similar FACT from much closer to home - from our cuzzies across the ditch in AUSTRALIA:

Australia Mass Shootings after 1996 National Firearms Agreement

Chippendale Blackmarket Nightclub Shooting 1997 3 Dead & 1 wounded by firearm

Mackay Bikie shootout, 1997 6 wounded by firearm

Wollongong Keira Street Slayings, 1999 1 Dead & 9 wounded by firearm

Wright St Bikie Murders, 1999 3 Dead & 2 wounded by firearm

Rod Ansell Rampage, 1999 2 Dead & 3 wounded by firearm

Kangaroo Flat siege, 1999 1 dead & 4 wounded.

Cabramatta Vietnamese Wedding Shooting, 2002 7 wounded by firearm, no deaths

Monash University Shooting, 2002 2 Dead & 5 wounded by firearm

Fairfield Babylon Café Shooting, 2005 1 Dead & 3 wounded by firearm

Oakhampton Heights triple-murder suicide, 2005 4 Dead by firearm

Adelaide Tonic Nightclub Bikie Shooting, 2007 4 Wounded by firearm

Gypsy Jokers Shootout, 2009 4 Wounded by firearm

Roxburgh Park Osborne murders, 2010 4 Dead by firearm

Hectorville Siege, 2011 3 Dead & 3 wounded by firearm

Sydney Smithfield Shooting, 2013 4 Wounded by firearm

Hunt family murders, 2014 5 Dead by firearm

Sydney Siege, 2014 3 Dead & 4 wounded by firearm

Biddeston Murders, 2015 4 Dead by Firearm

Ingleburn Wayne Williams Shootings, 2016 2 dead & 2 wounded by firearm

Brighton Siege, 2017 2 dead & 3 wounded by firearm

Margaret River Murder Suicide, 2018 7 Dead by firearm

Prahran Love Machine Nightclub Shooting April, 2019 2 Dead & 2 wounded by firearm

Darwin Australia Shooting June, 2019 4 Dead & 1 wounded by firearm

.. but we BANNED GUNS (too) ..

As far a possible I have specifically excluded knife crime .. while acknowledging that edged weapon use in violent crime has also greatly increased following police attempts to restrict firearms.

- Would anyone like to forecast how futile the various new amendments to our New Zealand 1983 Arms Act and the subsequent multiple Orders In Council will be?

Marty K.
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