- The 7.65 x 21 mm Mannlicher rounds were designed in 1901 in Austria-Hungary and were known there as the 7.63 Mannlicher cartridge - but in Germany as the 7.65 Mannlicher Cartridge. - The cartridge is said to use bullets of .308" diameter (7.82 mm).
- The different semi-rimmed .32" ACP aka 7.62 x17 mm Browning Short from around the same date is 4mm shorter in the brass. - and it uses bullets measuring .3125" (7.94mm) and is correspondingly fatter in the brass. - So this smaller metric designated caliber is actually bigger.
7.65 / 7.63 Mannlicher ..
A Metric Cartridge With Imperial Measurements
- Neither of these should be thought of in the same breath as the 7.63x25 mm MAUSER cartridge which is a bottle-necked cartridge whose bullets measure .309" .. 7.86 mm .. So that's clear.
7.63mm Mauser Has 7.86mm Bullets.
This Mannlicher cartridge (not the bloody Mauser round nor the Browning 'Short' /.32ACP) - was designed for use with the Steyr-Mannlicher M1901 Pistol ..which ended up being fed from the top by stripper clips despite at two development stages M1896 & M1897/01 having a box magazine forward of the trigger.
It started with M1896 - passed through M1887/01
- became the M1899 - before finishing-up as the M1901
- Well anyway - it seems that they gave one (an M1899) - to Kaiser William II in the hope that he'd help sell them .. TFB seems a little excited about that.
The Kaiser's Prezzie.
- As a grandson of Queen Victoria, Kaiser Wilhelm II was a first cousin of the future English King George V, as well as of queens Marie of Romania, Maud of Norway, Victoria Eugenie of Spain, and the Empress Alexandra of Russia. - Full name Friedrich Wilhelm Viktor Albert Hohenzollem .. Kaiser William II - this total nutter died in Holland in 1941.
End of story - I do hope that you enjoyed that 😄😄
Marty K.
Hi Marty
Hi Marty
Don’t fall into the trap of expecting cartridge designations to accurately describe the cartridge. At best they are merely nominal, and there is no official standard. The closest system is the metric caliber and case length (5.56x45, 7.62x51, etc) but even that has is faults. Think of cartridge designations as marketing tools rather than accurate descriptions. Correct cartridge identification is a ‘dark art’ after years of study!
Cheers, Rod
Yus - for sure.
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